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Bazza posted 13-04-2001 08:11 AM GMT
When did Zzap go downhill for you and therefore you stopped buying it. For me it was about issue 47 (Can't quite remember exactly). Mind you, I was getting right into my Amiga then, so I think I just started buying pure amiga stuff. "The One" was the best amiga games mag for me.
Andy1 posted 13-04-2001 09:00 PM GMT
I stopped buying it at issue 45, also due to my new Amiga. For me Amiga Power was far and away the best Amiga mag, and the only one to come close to the Zzap 64 spirit. (interesting that Gary Penn helped to launch and worked on BOTH mags though - at different times of course).
Bazza posted 14-04-2001 12:19 AM GMT
Andy1
Check out these links then:
http://amiga.emugaming.com/amigapower.html
http://dspace.dial.pipex.com/ap2/
http://freespace.virgin.net/adam.keyte/bap2.htm
http://www.cartwright33.freeserve.co.uk/ap/
for some Amiga Power memories
Andy1 posted 14-04-2001 12:26 AM GMT
Thanks mate, these should keep me busy til Iain and Mort get some more Zzap issues up (hint, hint guys!).
Mort posted 14-04-2001 03:12 PM GMT
I bought ZZap until it finished though it was pretty poor from about issue 50 onwards( Gordon had left by then ;-)) I thought they had put the nail in the coffin by not keeping
the tech tips & turning it into a comic from then on + removing the Amiga content in issue ;-( Stuart Wynn killed ZZAP ggrrr
kev posted 17-04-2001 05:43 PM GMT
Got to about 55, then found myself with an ST
after visiting a computer show, only to have my little bruv find me and say, "don't buy any games, think mum's gonna get us an ST!" Wasn't really as magical a machine, but Kick Off 2 was the best game ever!
BIGGEST JIM posted 20-04-2001 10:45 AM GMT
Hi there, I'm new...and I'm Dutch, so please don't mind any grammatical errors...nevermind.
My last issue....was nr. 89 right!
I always thought that I had the LAST ever zzap, only to discover that there seemed to be a nr. 90! Dissapointment, dissapointment!
Over here in Holland, my newsagent started to mess up after the "non-appearance" of issue...which one was it?? something in between 80 and 86?? I thought zzap died a tragic death, after reading a certain article in "commodore user", (those days I bought a LOT of c64 mags).
I was SOOO happy that I could get my hands on the latest mags, but after 89 I never-ever came across a nr. 90. I found out about it's existance, right over here, on Iain's pages! Which is cool!
To me , zzap really started to get downhill after the departure of the last reviewers of the "golden era", which is (I think) issues 4 to let's say 30 (??) , without Gary Penn & Julian Rignall Zzap just wasn't the same anymore. When they changed the title to zzap 64 & amiga (issue 44?? or something)it was definitely over for me, although I kept buying the magazine up till 89.
Though I liked the style of Houghton, Hamza & Glancey, it was a little too much over the top to me. Loved Ken D Fish, though, I even drew a cartoon starring him, over here, for my local school-journal. I named him: Kris de Vis (vis:which is Dutch for :Fish, understand?)Right, let's get back to the subject...
I realize now, while I am writing this, that after zzap died, I continued buying commodore format untill the end. Oh yeah, and I remember me also liking the last couple of zzap-issues (slightly bigger format)covering whole game-genres, like racing games, soccer games , and all that.
Shall I continue? Is this all interesting??
Well, anyway, I'll get back to you co-Zzap-lovers, soon.
Iain, thanx a million for your incredible work! Keep it up!
BIGGEST JIM posted 23-04-2001 02:48 PM GMT
oh well!
I did some research,
and I would like to make some corrections on the statements I made in my earlier reaction...
The "golden era" probably was issue 1 to 39 to be more specific.
With the departure of Rignall, and the new team under Gordon Houghton, together with the change to cover Amiga as well (issue42)
zzap started to go downhill.
My personal favourite period was issue 17 up to issue 41. After that it was all nice, but never the same. This being influenced also by things as : age, experience, software quality and changing personal interests.
To get back to my original reply...
after zzap I started buying COMMODORE FORCE, regularly, instead of commodore FORMAT (as I stated) a mag by the way which I bought occasionaly and wasn't that bad either!
The issue that didn't appear was clearly issue 79 (not something between 80 and 86 as I remembered)
Right!! All this effort, only to show that I know the facts, tusk, tusk! What a load of self-exploitance, or something like that!
Well, wobbly, wobbly, it's nice to correct yourself, and reply to yourself, and TALK to yourself, and....anyway...
IS THERE ANYBODY LISTENING?????? (echo...echo)
nevermind....
...cool though, bulletin boards...
(fading footsteps...)
mumble, mumble...
(fading mumblings..)
mbl,mbll..
Byeeee! Biggest Jim, or Rob de V. to other ZZAP-FANS, where-ever they might be
Bazza posted 23-04-2001 11:14 PM GMT
Yepp, I'm listening. I check this board daily, but it is very thin on the ground. Still, I like the fact that when someones posts, its of some interest rather than the juvenile crap you get on most boards.
iain posted 24-04-2001 10:16 AM GMT
and....anyway...
IS THERE ANYBODY LISTENING?????? (echo...echo)
nevermind....
...cool though, bulletin boards...
(fading footsteps...)
mumble, mumble...
(fading mumblings..)
mbl,mbll..
That's of interest?! :) Only joking! It's great to hear other peoples memories of Zzap and what it meant for them.
I wish the board was a bit more lively with some in depth discussions of all things Zzap, but I've so much other things to do with the pages that I haven't the time to really develope the boards :(
Mort posted 24-04-2001 03:08 PM GMT
yep. its my fault ;-))
BIGGEST JIM posted 24-04-2001 04:12 PM GMT
Well, here I am, this bulletin-board savior!!! TADaaaaaa!
IT"S ROB da FLYING "VVVVVEEEE", yahoo!
(clap,clap,clap, applause, bis, bis etc!)
FRRRRROM HOLLAAAAND!!!
(booooh!!!his!hisss!!)
WOT????
Oi! Sorry! No juvenile crap...
(cool down, Rob!)
Ok,ok. I am Rob, 29 year old Zzap-addict. (still)
Not that I haven't anything better to do, but I'd like to spank some LIFE in this message-board! Because Iain's page is SOOOO COOOOL (brill etc.) and ZZap 64 is/was such a nifty mag! (never saw anything better)
Maybe, EDGE or C+VG (not too bad, nowadays, but horrible in the '80's) and there was a mag called "ARCADE",?, which I liked, had some retropages included, which is cool.
But I can;t get my hands on it anymore, over'ere.
What are you people reading these days, and what games are you playing, if any?
I LOOOVE "driver" on my PC, for example! WOT A GAME!!!
Ok, 'till later, my wife's coming home...byeee
ROB DE V.
Bazza posted 25-04-2001 12:40 AM GMT
I haven't bought a print mag since about 1995. I think I used to get PC Gamer or some such thing. Our local stores in Melbourne Australia shrink wrapped everything so you couldn't really check the mag out before purchase and you couldn't return them if they were naff either. They were quite often naff and mis reported just about everything. Misquoted resolutions and features. One such example was when one mag did a preview for GP2 and stated that it was goign to use the new 3d Glint chip that was coming out. It was all super smooth of course and even smoother on the 3d chip. No need to say how smooth it was on initial release. Not only that but it was supporting LAN multiplay....yeah right.
Internet has changed the need to purchase gaming mags. They can't compete with on-line gaming sites for news and reviews. I'm surprised anyone still buys them.

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Author	Topic: What was your lats zzap
Bazza	posted 13-04-2001 08:11 AM GMT When did Zzap go downhill for you and therefore you stopped buying it. For me it was about issue 47 (Can't quite remember exactly). Mind you, I was getting right into my Amiga then, so I think I just started buying pure amiga stuff. "The One" was the best amiga games mag for me.
Andy1	posted 13-04-2001 09:00 PM GMT I stopped buying it at issue 45, also due to my new Amiga. For me Amiga Power was far and away the best Amiga mag, and the only one to come close to the Zzap 64 spirit. (interesting that Gary Penn helped to launch and worked on BOTH mags though - at different times of course).
Bazza	posted 14-04-2001 12:19 AM GMT Andy1 Check out these links then: http://amiga.emugaming.com/amigapower.html http://dspace.dial.pipex.com/ap2/ http://freespace.virgin.net/adam.keyte/bap2.htm http://www.cartwright33.freeserve.co.uk/ap/ for some Amiga Power memories
Andy1	posted 14-04-2001 12:26 AM GMT Thanks mate, these should keep me busy til Iain and Mort get some more Zzap issues up (hint, hint guys!).
Mort	posted 14-04-2001 03:12 PM GMT I bought ZZap until it finished though it was pretty poor from about issue 50 onwards( Gordon had left by then ;-)) I thought they had put the nail in the coffin by not keeping the tech tips & turning it into a comic from then on + removing the Amiga content in issue ;-( Stuart Wynn killed ZZAP ggrrr
kev	posted 17-04-2001 05:43 PM GMT Got to about 55, then found myself with an ST after visiting a computer show, only to have my little bruv find me and say, "don't buy any games, think mum's gonna get us an ST!" Wasn't really as magical a machine, but Kick Off 2 was the best game ever!
BIGGEST JIM	posted 20-04-2001 10:45 AM GMT Hi there, I'm new...and I'm Dutch, so please don't mind any grammatical errors...nevermind. My last issue....was nr. 89 right! I always thought that I had the LAST ever zzap, only to discover that there seemed to be a nr. 90! Dissapointment, dissapointment! Over here in Holland, my newsagent started to mess up after the "non-appearance" of issue...which one was it?? something in between 80 and 86?? I thought zzap died a tragic death, after reading a certain article in "commodore user", (those days I bought a LOT of c64 mags). I was SOOO happy that I could get my hands on the latest mags, but after 89 I never-ever came across a nr. 90. I found out about it's existance, right over here, on Iain's pages! Which is cool! To me , zzap really started to get downhill after the departure of the last reviewers of the "golden era", which is (I think) issues 4 to let's say 30 (??) , without Gary Penn & Julian Rignall Zzap just wasn't the same anymore. When they changed the title to zzap 64 & amiga (issue 44?? or something)it was definitely over for me, although I kept buying the magazine up till 89. Though I liked the style of Houghton, Hamza & Glancey, it was a little too much over the top to me. Loved Ken D Fish, though, I even drew a cartoon starring him, over here, for my local school-journal. I named him: Kris de Vis (vis:which is Dutch for :Fish, understand?)Right, let's get back to the subject... I realize now, while I am writing this, that after zzap died, I continued buying commodore format untill the end. Oh yeah, and I remember me also liking the last couple of zzap-issues (slightly bigger format)covering whole game-genres, like racing games, soccer games , and all that. Shall I continue? Is this all interesting?? Well, anyway, I'll get back to you co-Zzap-lovers, soon. Iain, thanx a million for your incredible work! Keep it up!
BIGGEST JIM	posted 23-04-2001 02:48 PM GMT oh well! I did some research, and I would like to make some corrections on the statements I made in my earlier reaction... The "golden era" probably was issue 1 to 39 to be more specific. With the departure of Rignall, and the new team under Gordon Houghton, together with the change to cover Amiga as well (issue42) zzap started to go downhill. My personal favourite period was issue 17 up to issue 41. After that it was all nice, but never the same. This being influenced also by things as : age, experience, software quality and changing personal interests. To get back to my original reply... after zzap I started buying COMMODORE FORCE, regularly, instead of commodore FORMAT (as I stated) a mag by the way which I bought occasionaly and wasn't that bad either! The issue that didn't appear was clearly issue 79 (not something between 80 and 86 as I remembered) Right!! All this effort, only to show that I know the facts, tusk, tusk! What a load of self-exploitance, or something like that! Well, wobbly, wobbly, it's nice to correct yourself, and reply to yourself, and TALK to yourself, and....anyway... IS THERE ANYBODY LISTENING?????? (echo...echo) nevermind.... ...cool though, bulletin boards... (fading footsteps...) mumble, mumble... (fading mumblings..) mbl,mbll.. Byeeee! Biggest Jim, or Rob de V. to other ZZAP-FANS, where-ever they might be
Bazza	posted 23-04-2001 11:14 PM GMT Yepp, I'm listening. I check this board daily, but it is very thin on the ground. Still, I like the fact that when someones posts, its of some interest rather than the juvenile crap you get on most boards.
iain	posted 24-04-2001 10:16 AM GMT and....anyway... IS THERE ANYBODY LISTENING?????? (echo...echo) nevermind.... ...cool though, bulletin boards... (fading footsteps...) mumble, mumble... (fading mumblings..) mbl,mbll.. That's of interest?! :) Only joking! It's great to hear other peoples memories of Zzap and what it meant for them. I wish the board was a bit more lively with some in depth discussions of all things Zzap, but I've so much other things to do with the pages that I haven't the time to really develope the boards :(
Mort	posted 24-04-2001 03:08 PM GMT yep. its my fault ;-))
BIGGEST JIM	posted 24-04-2001 04:12 PM GMT Well, here I am, this bulletin-board savior!!! TADaaaaaa! IT"S ROB da FLYING "VVVVVEEEE", yahoo! (clap,clap,clap, applause, bis, bis etc!) FRRRRROM HOLLAAAAND!!! (booooh!!!his!hisss!!) WOT???? Oi! Sorry! No juvenile crap... (cool down, Rob!) Ok,ok. I am Rob, 29 year old Zzap-addict. (still) Not that I haven't anything better to do, but I'd like to spank some LIFE in this message-board! Because Iain's page is SOOOO COOOOL (brill etc.) and ZZap 64 is/was such a nifty mag! (never saw anything better) Maybe, EDGE or C+VG (not too bad, nowadays, but horrible in the '80's) and there was a mag called "ARCADE",?, which I liked, had some retropages included, which is cool. But I can;t get my hands on it anymore, over'ere. What are you people reading these days, and what games are you playing, if any? I LOOOVE "driver" on my PC, for example! WOT A GAME!!! Ok, 'till later, my wife's coming home...byeee ROB DE V.
Bazza	posted 25-04-2001 12:40 AM GMT I haven't bought a print mag since about 1995. I think I used to get PC Gamer or some such thing. Our local stores in Melbourne Australia shrink wrapped everything so you couldn't really check the mag out before purchase and you couldn't return them if they were naff either. They were quite often naff and mis reported just about everything. Misquoted resolutions and features. One such example was when one mag did a preview for GP2 and stated that it was goign to use the new 3d Glint chip that was coming out. It was all super smooth of course and even smoother on the 3d chip. No need to say how smooth it was on initial release. Not only that but it was supporting LAN multiplay....yeah right. Internet has changed the need to purchase gaming mags. They can't compete with on-line gaming sites for news and reviews. I'm surprised anyone still buys them.