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kevin posted 07-08-2001 02:35 PM GMT
Anybody interested in selling the Zzap collection on CD? Then mail me at [email protected]
Mayhem posted 07-08-2001 03:38 PM GMT
Iain has thought about this once all 106 issues have been done. However we are talking 7 or 8 CDs here for all of them!
JohnnyRebel posted 18-09-2001 11:08 AM GMT
Well, i would but it.
iain posted 20-09-2001 07:42 PM GMT
I think I might make them available on CD, if only to save some of the server's bandwidth from these evil Getright users! :)
But it'll be a bit hush hush, just for the regulars in here I would think.
JohnnyRebel posted 24-09-2001 11:15 AM GMT
why don`t you make your own collection? So far i have downloaded the first 30 issues and put them on CD. FINALLY i can read the old numbers that i missed....WEEEEEEEE :)
Matt posted 25-09-2001 11:28 AM GMT
That's exactly what I am going to do.
But how many issues fit on a cd, and more, do you resize/resample the width and the length of the pages? Just out of curiousity that is...
/Matt
Matt posted 25-09-2001 01:24 PM GMT
I mean, do I have to download each page seperately? Or can I download an issue at once? That would be neat!
Cheers,
/Matt :)
Andy1 posted 25-09-2001 06:38 PM GMT
You should fit about 15 issues on a single CD
pjholl posted 25-09-2001 08:13 PM GMT
Hi!
I have access to Adobe Acrobat, so if someone was willing/able to send me all the scans on CD I could convert the issues into PDF format if this helps!
Iain, is this something you've had much demand for (issues in PDF format)?!?!?!!
Peter James Holl
<a href="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a>
<a href="http://www.commodoreformat.co.uk">www.commodoreformat.co.uk</a>
pjholl posted 25-09-2001 08:17 PM GMT
Bugger, thought HTML was enabled :(
[email protected]
www.commodoreformat.co.uk/
CraigG posted 26-09-2001 11:32 AM GMT
Good idea, but the PDFs on your site seem a bit... odd. I downloaded #61 and it seemed very grainy and when displayed at actual size, it was about 1" high!
pjholl posted 27-09-2001 06:40 AM GMT
Thanks for letting me know Craig!
I've just checked out the issue 61 PDF file and it seems fine. All I can suggest is that you check you've got the latest version of the Adobe Reader (version 5 is the latest I think) and that your graphics card is set to display in at least 16bit colour (preferably 32bit). If this is already the case can you let me know - I want to track this problem down if I can! btw are the other issues' PDF files corrupt for you too?
Many thanks!
Peter James Holl
[email protected]
www.commodoreformat.co.uk/
Mayhem posted 27-09-2001 09:55 AM GMT
I had a look at the pdf seeing as I scanned the issue now. I'm using Acrobat 4 and displaying 32 bit colour, and I will agree with Craig, it looks grainy to me. Remember that most people will only have version 3 or 4 of Acrobat now...
CraigG posted 27-09-2001 11:29 AM GMT
Uh, well I actually have Acrobat -- not just the reader. You need to be making PDFs for version 4, as this is the version with the highest market penetration.
My problem was that the set-up just looks plain wrong. If you tell the PDF to display at 'actual size' it reduces down to a thumbnail.
To confirm though, it *wasn't* a corrupted file; it just looked grainy and it looks like it's been saved at the wrong resolution.
Suj posted 27-09-2001 01:24 PM GMT
Hi there
Just found this excellent site, (wish I haden't thrown away all my old copys of ZZAp64).
Anyway I also tried converting the scans of ZZAP to a PDF file, the quality is excellent, however 1 page in a JPEG format is around 230kb, but when convert it to a PDF format it is around 1.5 to 2.5 MB so 1 issue of ZZAP in a pdf format will be over 100MB. Also if anybody would like to sell me some issues on CD I would very happy.
e-mail me at [email protected]
Matt posted 27-09-2001 06:56 PM GMT
Well, I just started to download issue after issue, but it's a hell of a job so don't foresee me to be ready before x-mas or something near that.
Now CF is online(finally!!). I mean, I want all them issues on cd aswell... (*sigh)
Cheers,
/Matt :)
JohnnyRebel posted 28-09-2001 12:52 PM GMT
I download about 5 issues a day, it takes me about 20 minutes i guess. I put 10 issues on one CD. I could fit 15, but 10 is such a "rounder" number :)
and i`m gonna make some cool labels and make a collection that will look good on the shelf.
pjholl posted 28-09-2001 07:34 PM GMT
Thanks CraigG!
Unfortunately I don't seem to be able to save the PDF file to a previous version (I'm using Acrobat 5 and want to save to a version 4.x file). Am I just being dumb or something? I can't find it in any of the settings and there's no info. in the help file either! The only way I seem to be able to do it is save it as a postscript file and then filter it through the acrobat distiller! That allows me to save it as a 4.x version! Any ideas?
Also, the reason they look so "small" is because the files have been saved at 400dpi and resized to 800 pixels across (giving a picture size of 2 inches across). They have also been compressed into JPEG format to save space, so that's most probably why it's looking quite grainy. I doubt I'd be able to improve that without increasing the size of the PDF files exponentially.
If I don't have any success with the PDFs I may give up with them and just concentrate on the HTML pages. If we can get all the issues online by the end of next year then I'm more than happy to create a CD/DVD version of them all!
If anyone can give me any help/advice please get in touch!!!
Many thanks!
Peter James Holl
[email protected]
www.commodoreformat.co.uk
CraigG posted 30-09-2001 04:03 AM GMT
Uh, why are you saving at 400dpi? That's just weird.
Screen res is 72dpi; if people wanted to print (300dpi) then you'd need the stuff at 100% size, not two inches!
You're better off saving them at 72dpi at around 1000px across...

However, personally I'd stick with straight HTML pages -- PDFs are fine for electronic documents (such as Zzap!64 107) but not great for collections of scanned images.
Matt posted 30-09-2001 02:47 PM GMT
Hey Johnny Rebel, how do you download them so fast? Is there any option I can download a whole issue at once or do I have to download them page by page?
/Matt
pjholl posted 30-09-2001 03:19 PM GMT
Thanks for the Advice Craig!
Matt, would it help then if I provided all the HTML/JPEG files in one ZIP file? That'd make it much easier for people to download the whole issue! Let me know!
Peter James Holl
[email protected]
www.commodoreformat.co.uk/
Matt posted 30-09-2001 07:53 PM GMT
Ofcourse it would, mate! Speaking of a brilliant idea huh!
Cheers,
/Matt
JohnnyRebel posted 01-10-2001 01:56 PM GMT
I use GetRight and download 16 and 16 pages at a time.
Go to this address:
http://www.zzap64.co.uk/index.html
Choose whitch issue you want,(if you choose issue 56, the address would be:
http://www.zzap64.co.uk/fullissues/zzap56f.html
copy the url, open the GetRight browser(the circle with the eye in the middle), enter the url there and press enter. you will then see several folders which hold the pages. Just open the first one and sort the files after "xxx". The files you want are the jpg. files, but NOT the ones with .tn in them(they are thumbnails).
Just mark all the 16 pages, right-click and choose Download/advanced. Type in the target-folder(i just name them issue56, issue57, etc..)wait one sec, and then open the next folder on the far left(the next folder you should open will be white). do this with all the pages and go back to the GetRight opening-page and press the button with the blue arrows on it. Sit back and relaaax...hehehe
Jonathan posted 07-10-2001 12:30 PM GMT
I think you can put 23 or 24 issues on one CD. I mean the first ten issues have bigger files than the rest, but you can put them on one cd. That leaves 96 more issues. 96/24=4 cds, which means you only need 5 cds!

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Author	Topic: wanted zzap on CD
kevin	posted 07-08-2001 02:35 PM GMT Anybody interested in selling the Zzap collection on CD? Then mail me at [email protected]
Mayhem	posted 07-08-2001 03:38 PM GMT Iain has thought about this once all 106 issues have been done. However we are talking 7 or 8 CDs here for all of them!
JohnnyRebel	posted 18-09-2001 11:08 AM GMT Well, i would but it.
iain	posted 20-09-2001 07:42 PM GMT I think I might make them available on CD, if only to save some of the server's bandwidth from these evil Getright users! :) But it'll be a bit hush hush, just for the regulars in here I would think.
JohnnyRebel	posted 24-09-2001 11:15 AM GMT why don`t you make your own collection? So far i have downloaded the first 30 issues and put them on CD. FINALLY i can read the old numbers that i missed....WEEEEEEEE :)
Matt	posted 25-09-2001 11:28 AM GMT That's exactly what I am going to do. But how many issues fit on a cd, and more, do you resize/resample the width and the length of the pages? Just out of curiousity that is... /Matt
Matt	posted 25-09-2001 01:24 PM GMT I mean, do I have to download each page seperately? Or can I download an issue at once? That would be neat! Cheers, /Matt :)
Andy1	posted 25-09-2001 06:38 PM GMT You should fit about 15 issues on a single CD
pjholl	posted 25-09-2001 08:13 PM GMT Hi! I have access to Adobe Acrobat, so if someone was willing/able to send me all the scans on CD I could convert the issues into PDF format if this helps! Iain, is this something you've had much demand for (issues in PDF format)?!?!?!! Peter James Holl <a href="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a> <a href="http://www.commodoreformat.co.uk">www.commodoreformat.co.uk</a>
pjholl	posted 25-09-2001 08:17 PM GMT Bugger, thought HTML was enabled :( [email protected] www.commodoreformat.co.uk/
CraigG	posted 26-09-2001 11:32 AM GMT Good idea, but the PDFs on your site seem a bit... odd. I downloaded #61 and it seemed very grainy and when displayed at actual size, it was about 1" high!
pjholl	posted 27-09-2001 06:40 AM GMT Thanks for letting me know Craig! I've just checked out the issue 61 PDF file and it seems fine. All I can suggest is that you check you've got the latest version of the Adobe Reader (version 5 is the latest I think) and that your graphics card is set to display in at least 16bit colour (preferably 32bit). If this is already the case can you let me know - I want to track this problem down if I can! btw are the other issues' PDF files corrupt for you too? Many thanks! Peter James Holl [email protected] www.commodoreformat.co.uk/
Mayhem	posted 27-09-2001 09:55 AM GMT I had a look at the pdf seeing as I scanned the issue now. I'm using Acrobat 4 and displaying 32 bit colour, and I will agree with Craig, it looks grainy to me. Remember that most people will only have version 3 or 4 of Acrobat now...
CraigG	posted 27-09-2001 11:29 AM GMT Uh, well I actually have Acrobat -- not just the reader. You need to be making PDFs for version 4, as this is the version with the highest market penetration. My problem was that the set-up just looks plain wrong. If you tell the PDF to display at 'actual size' it reduces down to a thumbnail. To confirm though, it wasn't a corrupted file; it just looked grainy and it looks like it's been saved at the wrong resolution.
Suj	posted 27-09-2001 01:24 PM GMT Hi there Just found this excellent site, (wish I haden't thrown away all my old copys of ZZAp64). Anyway I also tried converting the scans of ZZAP to a PDF file, the quality is excellent, however 1 page in a JPEG format is around 230kb, but when convert it to a PDF format it is around 1.5 to 2.5 MB so 1 issue of ZZAP in a pdf format will be over 100MB. Also if anybody would like to sell me some issues on CD I would very happy. e-mail me at [email protected]
Matt	posted 27-09-2001 06:56 PM GMT Well, I just started to download issue after issue, but it's a hell of a job so don't foresee me to be ready before x-mas or something near that. Now CF is online(finally!!). I mean, I want all them issues on cd aswell... (*sigh) Cheers, /Matt :)
JohnnyRebel	posted 28-09-2001 12:52 PM GMT I download about 5 issues a day, it takes me about 20 minutes i guess. I put 10 issues on one CD. I could fit 15, but 10 is such a "rounder" number :) and i`m gonna make some cool labels and make a collection that will look good on the shelf.
pjholl	posted 28-09-2001 07:34 PM GMT Thanks CraigG! Unfortunately I don't seem to be able to save the PDF file to a previous version (I'm using Acrobat 5 and want to save to a version 4.x file). Am I just being dumb or something? I can't find it in any of the settings and there's no info. in the help file either! The only way I seem to be able to do it is save it as a postscript file and then filter it through the acrobat distiller! That allows me to save it as a 4.x version! Any ideas? Also, the reason they look so "small" is because the files have been saved at 400dpi and resized to 800 pixels across (giving a picture size of 2 inches across). They have also been compressed into JPEG format to save space, so that's most probably why it's looking quite grainy. I doubt I'd be able to improve that without increasing the size of the PDF files exponentially. If I don't have any success with the PDFs I may give up with them and just concentrate on the HTML pages. If we can get all the issues online by the end of next year then I'm more than happy to create a CD/DVD version of them all! If anyone can give me any help/advice please get in touch!!! Many thanks! Peter James Holl [email protected] www.commodoreformat.co.uk
CraigG	posted 30-09-2001 04:03 AM GMT Uh, why are you saving at 400dpi? That's just weird. Screen res is 72dpi; if people wanted to print (300dpi) then you'd need the stuff at 100% size, not two inches! You're better off saving them at 72dpi at around 1000px across... However, personally I'd stick with straight HTML pages -- PDFs are fine for electronic documents (such as Zzap!64 107) but not great for collections of scanned images.
Matt	posted 30-09-2001 02:47 PM GMT Hey Johnny Rebel, how do you download them so fast? Is there any option I can download a whole issue at once or do I have to download them page by page? /Matt
pjholl	posted 30-09-2001 03:19 PM GMT Thanks for the Advice Craig! Matt, would it help then if I provided all the HTML/JPEG files in one ZIP file? That'd make it much easier for people to download the whole issue! Let me know! Peter James Holl [email protected] www.commodoreformat.co.uk/
Matt	posted 30-09-2001 07:53 PM GMT Ofcourse it would, mate! Speaking of a brilliant idea huh! Cheers, /Matt
JohnnyRebel	posted 01-10-2001 01:56 PM GMT I use GetRight and download 16 and 16 pages at a time. Go to this address: http://www.zzap64.co.uk/index.html Choose whitch issue you want,(if you choose issue 56, the address would be: http://www.zzap64.co.uk/fullissues/zzap56f.html copy the url, open the GetRight browser(the circle with the eye in the middle), enter the url there and press enter. you will then see several folders which hold the pages. Just open the first one and sort the files after "xxx". The files you want are the jpg. files, but NOT the ones with .tn in them(they are thumbnails). Just mark all the 16 pages, right-click and choose Download/advanced. Type in the target-folder(i just name them issue56, issue57, etc..)wait one sec, and then open the next folder on the far left(the next folder you should open will be white). do this with all the pages and go back to the GetRight opening-page and press the button with the blue arrows on it. Sit back and relaaax...hehehe
Jonathan	posted 07-10-2001 12:30 PM GMT I think you can put 23 or 24 issues on one CD. I mean the first ten issues have bigger files than the rest, but you can put them on one cd. That leaves 96 more issues. 96/24=4 cds, which means you only need 5 cds!