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farhan posted 17-10-2001 11:12 PM GMT
This topic is actually related to 'If Zzap! 64 was still around today...' so I suggest u read entries under that too, but I felt that the issue needs a slightly different perspective of 'how ZZAP (w/o 64) can still be around today'.
If one looks in retrospect, what eventually did bring ZZAP's demise was the fact that it became (again) a 64 games mag (shedding off Amiga coverage). If a scientific mind would like to plot the no. of games along the timeline simultaneously with a plot of new 64 releases..it will find that at about the same time when 64 releases started to decline appreciably, ZZAP gave up Amiga coverage...so its demise was precipitated (exponential increase) by this action (especially if one looks at the no. of pages in the subsequent all-64 era issues). Although as a 64 owner, i was happy at this decision at the time...now, when i look back at it, i think it was not a good decision for ZZAP.
So, a burning question in my view: what would one like to see reborn today? ZZAP or 64?
The latter has hardly a chance..a wishful, nostalgic dream; but the former is possible...it already is, slightly more than in spirit (#107 project), but if one can ever overcome the legal hurdles, we might someday have a brand-new issue of ZZAP in our hands; only it won't be ZZAP 64...probably ZZAP PC, or some multi-format hybrid. I know for most of us, ZZAP and 64 have an intertwined existence..so although it is difficult for us to imagine ZZAP w/o 64; it is perhaps the only way to revive ZZAP in a true sense. In today's world of web-zines and gamespot-type sites; it may even be more difficult, but I believe it is the only way.
Why bother? I have been a ZZAP and 64 fan; ZZAP because of its review style and unique regulars and features...so if I have the option to revive any of the two above..i will go for it. I still play computer games today..read reviews about them, and i would love to do it ZZAP-style. What do u think?
CraigG posted 18-10-2001 01:41 AM GMT
Zzap!64 was a C64 magazine. That's not to say the ideas within it couldn't be used in a modern magazine. As I said in another thread, Arcade kind of had a crack at that sort of method, but got canned -- and no-one seems to be able to offer an explanation as to why...
As for #107 -- it's very definitely going to be a Commodore 64 mag! :)
Mort posted 18-10-2001 09:44 AM GMT
I would also like to see another multiformat magazine in the style of ZZap, I read in one of the financial web pages though future was/still is in financial difficulties so canned a lot of magazines hence the demises of its "best" Arcade :-(
CraigG posted 18-10-2001 09:56 AM GMT
Future merged and sold a lot of magazines during the last six months or so due to financial problems. However, these were the magazines that were selling poorly. Arcade was doing pretty well and wasn't it followed up by another (inferior) multi-format mag?
leet posted 18-10-2001 12:09 PM GMT
Future hasnt merged though it is in dire
finncial trouble - It has laid off about
1,000 staff and canned quite a few of their
mags, including ARCADE. I believe the
circulation figs were OK, but the probable
explanation is due to lack of advertising.
VIDEO GAMER was meant to be an updated
version of ARCADE, but it only lasted a few
issues.
CraigG posted 18-10-2001 12:59 PM GMT
As in 'Future has merged a lot of magazines' not merged with another company! (Witness Future Music and The Mix being squished together.)
:)
1054462 posted 18-10-2001 03:25 PM GMT
The reason why a magazine like arcade failed is simply because arcades are a thing of the past, a relic of retrogaming. Home computers finally caught up with arcade technology and passed it by. Not surprisingly the few arcades left aren't making much money out of their old 20p machines. Still they were great times, memories of showing off by getting a huge score on rastan with groups of gamers trying to see what was happening! :0) Or comparing your favourite arcade games to their c64 conversions. Best arcade conversion for me was salamander...top game!

raz
leet posted 18-10-2001 03:27 PM GMT
Not wanting to be pedantic, but...
ARCADE wasnt actually just about arcade games. It was a multi-format mag, like C&VG,
only x100 better!
CraigG posted 18-10-2001 05:27 PM GMT
Maybe it folded because of the name then! :)
JohnnyRebel posted 20-10-2001 05:53 PM GMT
Since most of the readers who grew up reading Zzap(like myself) are older now, i would like to se a more "mature" Zzap, like EDGE magazine, but with LOTS of retro-stuff. Now THAT would be cool :)
Andy1 posted 21-10-2001 09:55 PM GMT
You all seem to be forgetting the fact that Zzap IS still around today. We're all eagerly beavering away on issue 107! (okay, I understand the point you were making, but someone had to say it)

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Author	Topic: How ZZAP can still be around today!
farhan	posted 17-10-2001 11:12 PM GMT This topic is actually related to 'If Zzap! 64 was still around today...' so I suggest u read entries under that too, but I felt that the issue needs a slightly different perspective of 'how ZZAP (w/o 64) can still be around today'. If one looks in retrospect, what eventually did bring ZZAP's demise was the fact that it became (again) a 64 games mag (shedding off Amiga coverage). If a scientific mind would like to plot the no. of games along the timeline simultaneously with a plot of new 64 releases..it will find that at about the same time when 64 releases started to decline appreciably, ZZAP gave up Amiga coverage...so its demise was precipitated (exponential increase) by this action (especially if one looks at the no. of pages in the subsequent all-64 era issues). Although as a 64 owner, i was happy at this decision at the time...now, when i look back at it, i think it was not a good decision for ZZAP. So, a burning question in my view: what would one like to see reborn today? ZZAP or 64? The latter has hardly a chance..a wishful, nostalgic dream; but the former is possible...it already is, slightly more than in spirit (#107 project), but if one can ever overcome the legal hurdles, we might someday have a brand-new issue of ZZAP in our hands; only it won't be ZZAP 64...probably ZZAP PC, or some multi-format hybrid. I know for most of us, ZZAP and 64 have an intertwined existence..so although it is difficult for us to imagine ZZAP w/o 64; it is perhaps the only way to revive ZZAP in a true sense. In today's world of web-zines and gamespot-type sites; it may even be more difficult, but I believe it is the only way. Why bother? I have been a ZZAP and 64 fan; ZZAP because of its review style and unique regulars and features...so if I have the option to revive any of the two above..i will go for it. I still play computer games today..read reviews about them, and i would love to do it ZZAP-style. What do u think?
CraigG	posted 18-10-2001 01:41 AM GMT Zzap!64 was a C64 magazine. That's not to say the ideas within it couldn't be used in a modern magazine. As I said in another thread, Arcade kind of had a crack at that sort of method, but got canned -- and no-one seems to be able to offer an explanation as to why... As for #107 -- it's very definitely going to be a Commodore 64 mag! :)
Mort	posted 18-10-2001 09:44 AM GMT I would also like to see another multiformat magazine in the style of ZZap, I read in one of the financial web pages though future was/still is in financial difficulties so canned a lot of magazines hence the demises of its "best" Arcade :-(
CraigG	posted 18-10-2001 09:56 AM GMT Future merged and sold a lot of magazines during the last six months or so due to financial problems. However, these were the magazines that were selling poorly. Arcade was doing pretty well and wasn't it followed up by another (inferior) multi-format mag?
leet	posted 18-10-2001 12:09 PM GMT Future hasnt merged though it is in dire finncial trouble - It has laid off about 1,000 staff and canned quite a few of their mags, including ARCADE. I believe the circulation figs were OK, but the probable explanation is due to lack of advertising. VIDEO GAMER was meant to be an updated version of ARCADE, but it only lasted a few issues.
CraigG	posted 18-10-2001 12:59 PM GMT As in 'Future has merged a lot of magazines' not merged with another company! (Witness Future Music and The Mix being squished together.) :)
1054462	posted 18-10-2001 03:25 PM GMT The reason why a magazine like arcade failed is simply because arcades are a thing of the past, a relic of retrogaming. Home computers finally caught up with arcade technology and passed it by. Not surprisingly the few arcades left aren't making much money out of their old 20p machines. Still they were great times, memories of showing off by getting a huge score on rastan with groups of gamers trying to see what was happening! :0) Or comparing your favourite arcade games to their c64 conversions. Best arcade conversion for me was salamander...top game! raz
leet	posted 18-10-2001 03:27 PM GMT Not wanting to be pedantic, but... ARCADE wasnt actually just about arcade games. It was a multi-format mag, like C&VG, only x100 better!
CraigG	posted 18-10-2001 05:27 PM GMT Maybe it folded because of the name then! :)
JohnnyRebel	posted 20-10-2001 05:53 PM GMT Since most of the readers who grew up reading Zzap(like myself) are older now, i would like to se a more "mature" Zzap, like EDGE magazine, but with LOTS of retro-stuff. Now THAT would be cool :)
Andy1	posted 21-10-2001 09:55 PM GMT You all seem to be forgetting the fact that Zzap IS still around today. We're all eagerly beavering away on issue 107! (okay, I understand the point you were making, but someone had to say it)