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iain posted 04-04-2002 10:11 PM GMT
Here's the latest email I got from the printers.
"
1)CMYK would be best but PDF's in RGB should be alright.The
colours may not be as accurate.Whoever produces the artwork should be
able to convert to CMYK before creating the PDF.
2)The prices do not include VAT
3)36pp 100 copies �695
50 copies �530
"
Vat is 17.5% in Britian I believe so that would be �8.16 printing costs per issue (assuming we get over 100 orders) other wise it would be �12.45 basic, which I think is rather over the top.
Can we get over 100 orders for around �10?
I can set up the Credit card thing and wait and see I guess?
Although at this outlay, I think I'd have to charge the credit cards after we get enough orders but before I ship out the mags as I don't have �900 to spare at the mo!!

AntStiller posted 04-04-2002 10:25 PM GMT
I'd be willing to pay that much. Not sure how much I'd need to add for shipping to Australia, though.
BIGGEST JIM posted 04-04-2002 10:34 PM GMT
Count me in!
Rob
PaulEMoz posted 05-04-2002 04:58 AM GMT
Yeah, I'd need mine shipped to the US, but I'd definitely be up for a copy. It's history, man!!!
CraigG posted 05-04-2002 10:13 AM GMT
"Whoever produces the artwork should be
able to convert to CMYK before creating the PDF."
Not easily and not quickly, as I never thought we'd be needing a CMYK version. I'm not sure what an automatic RGB->CMYK conversion would do in InDesign.
In terms of drumming up support, [email protected] said he'd be happy to run an ad for the printed Zzap!64.
I agree that the best bet would be to set up a CC ordering thing, and say this will be a once-only limited run.
I'm sure 100 orders will easily be filled.
One thought: there may have to be a limit on how many Issues an individual can order...
Mayhem posted 05-04-2002 11:17 AM GMT
Definitely be interested...
Mort posted 05-04-2002 12:54 PM GMT
I would also be interested as it would be a lot better quality than the lasercopy from work :-)
Plus Iain any news on the T shirt idea?
CraigG posted 05-04-2002 02:44 PM GMT
How about this for a T-Shirt idea:
The front page of Zzap!64 #107?
I have the artwork as a 300DPI Photoshop file and can easily convert that to any format (CMYK or RGB), and it would only contain the Zzap!64 logo and Oli pic.
Erm, I'm emigrating in a few weeks, so I won't be able to do any legwork, but I can fling a CDR at someone with the file on if they want to do this.
iain posted 05-04-2002 06:42 PM GMT
Why limited the amount of issues a person can order? Once the total amount for everybody is over 100. If I get enough orders for 1000, that's no problem!
iain posted 05-04-2002 06:43 PM GMT
Well I think I'll do it anyway. There's nothing to lose, if we don't get >100 orders that's that.
Anybody fancy coming up with a banner to display on Lemon and other sites?
Basicaly something along the lines of own a professionally printed copy of the latest version of Zzap...
Thoughts?
Gribbly posted 06-04-2002 12:12 PM GMT
Yep!
I'm in for it and would buy it at either price.
What is the URL for the payment?
Gordon posted 06-04-2002 02:20 PM GMT
Iain,
Let me know when they are for sale, and I'll put a banner ad/link on my Zzap! pages.
G.
Nice idea to have a "selected book" panel on the main site, btw :)
iain posted 06-04-2002 02:58 PM GMT
Thought it might be nice, when the site is fully cgi (well the main page anyway) it'll randomly display a book from the DB.
And worry not, I've got the details for your book from Amazon, so that'll appearing up there shorty! :)
Seems you can't get the Dinner Party from Amazon anymore though. :(
Gordon posted 06-04-2002 08:15 PM GMT
>so that'll appearing up there shorty!<
Hey! How did you know I was short? :)
>Seems you can't get the Dinner Party from Amazon anymore though. :( <
No, the publisher went bust -- anyone who wants a more detailed explanation can click on the "Buy it" icon on my TDP page ;)
http://www.the-burrow.freeserve.co.uk/novels/thedinnerparty.html
G.
CraigG posted 07-04-2002 01:53 PM GMT
Iain--seeing as I have all the original artwork, I'll sort a banner out next week at some point.
C
iain posted 07-04-2002 06:56 PM GMT
Thanks Craig! All I've got left to do before putting the for sale link is price the cost of envelopes! :) Considering the cost of printing, I think I should go for a strong envelope with a bit of cardboard in it.
Steve posted 09-04-2002 10:56 PM GMT
count me in.
Gazunta posted 10-04-2002 04:11 AM GMT
Iain -
Definitely count me in for a copy or two. How about setting up a Paypal thing as well? You can accept cc payments through that too.
And I'll definitely run the banner ad on gazunta.com so please mail me that, Craig :)

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Author	Topic: Latest on Magazine Printing
iain	posted 04-04-2002 10:11 PM GMT Here's the latest email I got from the printers. " 1)CMYK would be best but PDF's in RGB should be alright.The colours may not be as accurate.Whoever produces the artwork should be able to convert to CMYK before creating the PDF. 2)The prices do not include VAT 3)36pp 100 copies �695 50 copies �530 " Vat is 17.5% in Britian I believe so that would be �8.16 printing costs per issue (assuming we get over 100 orders) other wise it would be �12.45 basic, which I think is rather over the top. Can we get over 100 orders for around �10? I can set up the Credit card thing and wait and see I guess? Although at this outlay, I think I'd have to charge the credit cards after we get enough orders but before I ship out the mags as I don't have �900 to spare at the mo!!
AntStiller	posted 04-04-2002 10:25 PM GMT I'd be willing to pay that much. Not sure how much I'd need to add for shipping to Australia, though.
BIGGEST JIM	posted 04-04-2002 10:34 PM GMT Count me in! Rob
PaulEMoz	posted 05-04-2002 04:58 AM GMT Yeah, I'd need mine shipped to the US, but I'd definitely be up for a copy. It's history, man!!!
CraigG	posted 05-04-2002 10:13 AM GMT "Whoever produces the artwork should be able to convert to CMYK before creating the PDF." Not easily and not quickly, as I never thought we'd be needing a CMYK version. I'm not sure what an automatic RGB->CMYK conversion would do in InDesign. In terms of drumming up support, [email protected] said he'd be happy to run an ad for the printed Zzap!64. I agree that the best bet would be to set up a CC ordering thing, and say this will be a once-only limited run. I'm sure 100 orders will easily be filled. One thought: there may have to be a limit on how many Issues an individual can order...
Mayhem	posted 05-04-2002 11:17 AM GMT Definitely be interested...
Mort	posted 05-04-2002 12:54 PM GMT I would also be interested as it would be a lot better quality than the lasercopy from work :-) Plus Iain any news on the T shirt idea?
CraigG	posted 05-04-2002 02:44 PM GMT How about this for a T-Shirt idea: The front page of Zzap!64 #107? I have the artwork as a 300DPI Photoshop file and can easily convert that to any format (CMYK or RGB), and it would only contain the Zzap!64 logo and Oli pic. Erm, I'm emigrating in a few weeks, so I won't be able to do any legwork, but I can fling a CDR at someone with the file on if they want to do this.
iain	posted 05-04-2002 06:42 PM GMT Why limited the amount of issues a person can order? Once the total amount for everybody is over 100. If I get enough orders for 1000, that's no problem!
iain	posted 05-04-2002 06:43 PM GMT Well I think I'll do it anyway. There's nothing to lose, if we don't get >100 orders that's that. Anybody fancy coming up with a banner to display on Lemon and other sites? Basicaly something along the lines of own a professionally printed copy of the latest version of Zzap... Thoughts?
Gribbly	posted 06-04-2002 12:12 PM GMT Yep! I'm in for it and would buy it at either price. What is the URL for the payment?
Gordon	posted 06-04-2002 02:20 PM GMT Iain, Let me know when they are for sale, and I'll put a banner ad/link on my Zzap! pages. G. Nice idea to have a "selected book" panel on the main site, btw :)
iain	posted 06-04-2002 02:58 PM GMT Thought it might be nice, when the site is fully cgi (well the main page anyway) it'll randomly display a book from the DB. And worry not, I've got the details for your book from Amazon, so that'll appearing up there shorty! :) Seems you can't get the Dinner Party from Amazon anymore though. :(
Gordon	posted 06-04-2002 08:15 PM GMT >so that'll appearing up there shorty!< Hey! How did you know I was short? :) >Seems you can't get the Dinner Party from Amazon anymore though. :( < No, the publisher went bust -- anyone who wants a more detailed explanation can click on the "Buy it" icon on my TDP page ;) http://www.the-burrow.freeserve.co.uk/novels/thedinnerparty.html G.
CraigG	posted 07-04-2002 01:53 PM GMT Iain--seeing as I have all the original artwork, I'll sort a banner out next week at some point. C
iain	posted 07-04-2002 06:56 PM GMT Thanks Craig! All I've got left to do before putting the for sale link is price the cost of envelopes! :) Considering the cost of printing, I think I should go for a strong envelope with a bit of cardboard in it.
Steve	posted 09-04-2002 10:56 PM GMT count me in.
Gazunta	posted 10-04-2002 04:11 AM GMT Iain - Definitely count me in for a copy or two. How about setting up a Paypal thing as well? You can accept cc payments through that too. And I'll definitely run the banner ad on gazunta.com so please mail me that, Craig :)