posted 31-03-2003 04:33 PM GMT        

There are sitting in front of me, so there no pending orders hassle. If I don't send out an order within 4 days, you get the issue for free. That should motivate me to get them out fast!!

I also feel a little guilty about the previous mess of everybody not getting the issue since I ran out, so I'm throwing in a CD with full scans of a few of the issues as well as the PDF files of issue 107

So order the printed issue right now!

posted 01-04-2003 06:11 PM GMT            

How I didn't end up ordering one of these the first time round is between me and my priest -- can you email me your address so I can buy one of the second bunch?

Cheers,
G

posted 22-04-2003 01:46 PM GMT            

2005 sounds about right, though. :)

posted 27-04-2003 06:12 PM GMT            

I would write more on this subject (and I haveabit to say on it, I think)...but I just downloaded the Italian translation / extension of #107 and I'm just...speechless.

posted 27-04-2003 07:05 PM GMT            

Quite strange seeing Italian coming out of Mort's bubble though :)

posted 28-04-2003 12:46 PM GMT            

I can understand what you're saying -- *ahem* it seems that someone got left off the list of Illustrators *ahem* -- but I can't begrudge them that. The amount of work they've done is pretty bloody impressive.

But, yeah, I'd probably feel a little jilted too.

posted 28-04-2003 10:46 PM GMT            

I doubt they did it from scratch.

posted 29-04-2003 11:39 AM GMT            

From my perspective, the look/design was a little... iffy, although I understand the Italian designer used a different package to me, so had to recreate things from scratch (he used XPress, and I was using InDesign).

posted 29-04-2003 01:46 PM GMT            

Yep - they were very nice about it (and continue to be so): very friendly, and respectful towards the whole idea of Zzap!

>I also sent all the source files over, so they could use them. However, the result was _very_ different to what I was expecting (I can't speak for Gordo, but I guess that was the same for him).<

Sort of. I'd kind of imagined they'd stick to the original form of z107; but then I heard about the Quark issue (Quark is a dog compared to InDesign, IMHO - Kati uses Quark and hates it, and I've meddled with ID and find it relatively easy to use; and on top of all that Quark is hugely expensive); and I knew that the old Italian Zzap!s had quite a different and distinctive style compared to the UK Zzap!s, so it wasn't a total surprise to see how different it turned out.

It's a shame some of the reviewers' comments got cut out, but this happened with the original anyway (Jaz's head appears on some reviews, spouting Italian, but a lot didn't make the translation); but conversely, I'm not at all bothered that my editorial went. Some of it wouldn't have made sense for an Italian audience anyway. I guess in the end they retained what fitted in their. Personally, I think they did a good job given the time they had to do it in - Craig's efforts in supplying the source materials certainly helped, as the guy in charge of the project told me on several occasions

Anyway, I should apologise while I'm here, because I suppose I should have mentioned it more widely in this forum when I was contacted about the Italian z107 project, just to see if anyone objected, or had ideas or contributions they wanted to make. So... Sorry :)