ZZAP! or C-Force?
ZZAP! or C-Force?
Do you think Europress should have rebranded ZZAP! and changed it to Commodore Force, or do you think they should have let it go on as ZZAP! ?
I always think its a pity we didnt see a 100th issue of ZZAP! - I don't really consider counting on those issues of C-Force as a continuation.
One of the things I didnt like about C-Force was the staff situation - Every issue someone moved over to the mag or helped out. I know that Newsfield had trouble hanging onto staff, but this was ridiculous!! People from Sega Force and Nintendo Force used to help with reviews then disappear.
Another thing - Phil King was demoted. Not sure why he was but he had put in a good few years at Newsfield and had just been made Editor, then Steve Shields appeared and Phil was made Deputy Editor...
So lets hear your views on this subject...............
I always think its a pity we didnt see a 100th issue of ZZAP! - I don't really consider counting on those issues of C-Force as a continuation.
One of the things I didnt like about C-Force was the staff situation - Every issue someone moved over to the mag or helped out. I know that Newsfield had trouble hanging onto staff, but this was ridiculous!! People from Sega Force and Nintendo Force used to help with reviews then disappear.
Another thing - Phil King was demoted. Not sure why he was but he had put in a good few years at Newsfield and had just been made Editor, then Steve Shields appeared and Phil was made Deputy Editor...
So lets hear your views on this subject...............
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They should have cancelled Zzap, and just start a new title like Commodore Force, without any zzap connection at all. I think they were just afraid of losing the last diehard 'zzap'readers. (if they hadn't lost them already anyway, although I remained loyal up to issue 89 )
When we did Zzap issue 107, I complained about the issue number to the others, I would have gone for issue 91 or something, or for no issue number at all, or issue 2001 maybe. But IIRC nobody agreed, and everyone said that C-force was the official follow up incorporating zzap blabla, so we had to go on from there, 90+16=106, so 107. Mmm.
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When we did Zzap issue 107, I complained about the issue number to the others, I would have gone for issue 91 or something, or for no issue number at all, or issue 2001 maybe. But IIRC nobody agreed, and everyone said that C-force was the official follow up incorporating zzap blabla, so we had to go on from there, 90+16=106, so 107. Mmm.
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I hate Commodore Force. Zzap was dying. Commodore Format was a lot better. You could tell because C-force was always putting C-Format down but C-Format never bite. C-Force should of cut all ties with Zzap and let it have a dignified death but unfortunately as much as I loved Zzap I can only remember it For C-FORCE.
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Speaking as someone who worked for both mags, C-Format did keep having digs at C-Force. And look at what happened in the last few issues of C-Format - reprinting old tips! Gosh, that's a bad idea, isn't it?sdoneill wrote:I hate Commodore Force. Zzap was dying. Commodore Format was a lot better. You could tell because C-force was always putting C-Format down but C-Format never bite. C-Force should of cut all ties with Zzap and let it have a dignified death but unfortunately as much as I loved Zzap I can only remember it For C-FORCE.
For a perfect example, there was the "10 things we won't miss about C-Force" piece. Most of what is said in there could be applied to C-Format as well...
[/quote]sdoneill wrote:The main point I was trying to say was that C-Force should of cut all ties with Zzap.
To be fair, Force was fairly different to ZZAP! - It seemed to be aimed at a younger age group (probably because Europress thought that kids were buying the C64 in the later years). That's one of the things I didn't like about it - The covertapes started off as being excellent, with proper full ex-releases being covermounted, but gradually the SEUCK reader games appeared every issue.
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Ian (Osbourne) mentioned some things regarding the final Zzap!/CF on this thread.